Friday, December 30, 2011
Poppop VI (Thanjavur)
Another day of just driving from one place to another, except for
some concern raised by the weather. We left Kochi at 9 a.m. and got
here around 3:30. As you may know (or may not), there was a cyclone
in the area around Chennai and Pondicherry, whose effect extended to
Thanjavur (abbreviated T'vur fron now on). When we reached Trichy, it
started raining and rained almost all the way. The drive told us that
access to T'vur may be difficult. But we got here fine and the rain
had stopped. Driving in Tamil Nadu is a lot better than in Kerala.
Kerala is totally congested. A whole series of different towns with
no breaks. The congestion of traffic was the reason we felt quite
anxious about the driving conditions. Today, the driving pattern was
the same but we had long stretches with very little traffic and we did
not feel the same anxiety as we did yesterday.
This hotel about which I had some misgivings (because of its price:
the total cost of two rooms for two nights is less than what we paid
for a single night in Kochi) turns out to be quite nice and it is
centrally located. The beer store is only a block away. A clothing
store (I needed to buy some T shirts, called "banians" here) is just a
few feet away. The staff are pleasant and helpful and the rooms are
reasonably spacious. The lighting is dim, however. The hotel is
Christian-owned. I should have known that from its name: Gnanam,
which means "enlightenment", a term used by the Tamil Christians for
those who have accepted Jesus. I thought it was in honor of my dear
departed sister Gnana (the enlightened one)!
Chandran has a bad cold today. Mine lasted only one day and I hope
he is equally lucky.
Thursday, December 29, 2011
Pop pop V
The only thing we did today was to leave Kochi at 9 a.m. and drive
to Coimbatore (about five and a half hours). It was scary. The
drivers have no sense of danger and when they decide to pass, they
simply move into the right lane. There were a couple of close shaves.
Our driver was no better than the rest of them. Even though we were
in no hurry at all, he was driving as if we were being rushed to a
hospital. Chandran, in particular, feels that he was putting other
drivers at risk by driving off auto rickshaws and motor bikes off the
road and playing chicken with oncoming traffic. There is no point in
telling him not to drive so fast because it is in his nature to drive
like that. The reason Indians are so religious and have so much faith
in God is because it is only God's will that they do not meet bad
accidents on the road.
Thanks for the pictures of the snow on the deck and Noah and Hannah.
My Indian bank account is working as smoothly as in the U. S. I
went to a branch just a block away from here and withdrew $1000 with
no hitch at all! All establishments accept rupees from me without any
question.
A funny incident: Yesterday, when we were on the boat in the
backwaters of Kerala and stopped for lunch. We were taken to this
little building and sat down at our tables. A guy brought banana
leaves and put one in front of each of us. Nicky asked Sara what it
was and she said it was a banana leaf. And Nicky began worrying that
he was supposed to eat it and started fussing. He was quite relieved
that he didn't have to do that.
Tuesday, December 27, 2011
Pop pop IV
Laura wants me to tell you she is having a great time in India and
has made friends here.
It is warm and humid. This morning we went to an area of Kochi (about
a mile away from the hotel) and even though Chandran suggested our
walking over there we took our van. We went to the "Jew Town" (Yes,
that is its official name and there are signs). The Jews moved to
Kerala in the mid 16th Century when they were kicked out of Goa. The
Kerala king gave them asylum and they established an area in town.
When Israel was created, most of them moved to Israel but they left
lots of their stuff behind. So there are lots of antique stores. One
of stores had a reclining Ganesha (not an antique) and costs only
$5000 and I felt that we should have that in a specially designed
platform at Brockport. That is our anniversary present! Chiara, Sara
and Laura went shopping in that area. Chandran and I (and NIcky)
found an excellent book shop. Kochi is a touristy kind of town. The
number of westerners is quite large.
We had an excellent lunch (the best aviyal so far) and then we
returned to the hotel. To say I was sapped and just wanted to lie
down is an understatement. In the late afternoon, there was a plan to
go to a basilica but we wisely decided we won't. We went to a
restaurant called the Menorah for dinner (one of the few places with
wine and beer). As you can guess by the name, there was a menorah and
a rabbi came and said some prayers and lit the candles. The food was
very good. Even the wine was tolerable. Then they had live music
with a flute and tabla.
Tomorrow early morning (6:30 a.m.) we are off on an organized
outing where we first go to an elephant training camp (which is where
the elephants from Trichy are!) and then on a backwater boat tour.
Sara heard from Padma (who is in Kottayam) but looks like we will
not see them.
On Thursday, we are taking off for Coimbatore.
It was really nice hearing from you. Thanks for the pictures.
Couple of things. The film reporter for the Times of India is Mini
Anthkad-Chhibber! Could she be a relative? The couple we mentioned
last night (from Rochester): he is the youngest faculty member in the
department and so you may not know him. His name is Greg Halpern (not
sure about the spelling of the last name). Their parents came today;
they flew from Trivandrum to Kochi and it took them an hour and a half
to get to the hotel from the airport. The father is a professor at
SUNY/Buffalo and he knows Chandran's advisor! At this rate, we may
well find that they are an arm of the Riddle family!
We are generally having a good time. Chiara is a total saint! Laura
is very easy.
Say hello to everyone! Tell Noah that I really missed seeing him
and we will definitely see him in Senegal.
Love
ELH
Monday, December 26, 2011
Saturday, December 24, 2011
Pop pop III
We spent 11 hours getting from Trichy to Trivandrum. The first 6
hours were a breeze: it was like driving on the NY Thruway (except for
one bottleneck situation near Madurai). Then we got on this 2 lane
road that went through several villages and we were essentially
creeping; in one town, it was standing for several minutes and then
moving for one. There was also an unnecessary delay at the border
where we had to pay a tax of Rs. 1000 because ours was not a private
car; it took 20 minutes to make the payment and wait for their
computer to print the permit. All this delay paled in significance
when we entered Trivandrum. Traffic was inching along and there were
two sections of the road where there had been flooding from rain today
with water knee deep. People were wading through the water and our
driver was worried about the engine stalling. Finally we got to the
hotel around 8:30 p.m. We were all loudly praising God for getting us
to our destination at last (of course, it was God who also made it
rain!).
Nothing else to report. I hope you are having a very fine
Christmas Eve dinner with the rest of the family. Tell them all that
we miss being there and wish them all a very merry Christmas.
Love
ELH
Friday, December 23, 2011
More from Pop pop
leaving for Bangalore by train tonight (to visit Venkat's family) and
then fly from there to Hyderabad. Her school starts Monday. She has
received a very prestigious award from the Government of the Andhra
Pradesh state as the scientist with the most significant
contributions. She didn't tell me that of course; Tulasi did. Having
Jayanthi around made so much difference. She and Sara did a fair
amount of shopping today at Lakshmi Silk House and Saratha's in the
town. Saris, blouse, salwar kameez.
This morning, we went and picked up Kalyanam then went to Woriur.
The outside of the house is exactly the same except for a new coat of
paint (light cream color). The octagonal living room and the upstairs
room are left untouched, but just about everything else is being
totally redone. Lot of people working on it. The entrance to the left
half portion (where my mother used to live) has been blocked off with
a new wall. The owners have rented it out to an orthopedist (a "bone
doctor" as he is called) but he has not moved in.
Then we went to the bank. I was able to withdraw enough money to
pay for our van rental. The manager was very nice and extremely
helpful.
Around 11:15 we left the bank, being late to reach Kannan's house
by a mere half an hour. One gets used to not worrying about being
punctual. Earlier I had contacted Jayanthi (by phone) to ask her
whether she wanted to go to Kannan's for lunch; she said no because
she was going to have lunch with her mother (being her last day in
Trichy)! So, imagine my astonishment on entering Kannan's house and
seeing Tulasi there. She was invited by Rajee (Kannan's wife) and
decided to come. Jayanthi did not, however. We had a most excellent
meal. Rajee is an outstanding cook of traditional South Indian
brahmin food.
After lunch, we drove to Tulasi's, dropped her off and picked up
Jayanthi and went into the center where all the shops are. Chandran
took the twins to somewhere where they could run around, while the
remaining four of us went shopping. After shopping, we drove back to
Tulasi's. Tulasi's sister in law came for a visit; she is so nice.
We stayed for a short time and then we returned to the hotel.
The Tamil Nadu Kerala border situation seems to have eased and so
we will be going to Kerala tomorrow.
Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Monday, December 19, 2011
From Pop pop
Good to hear that I am valuable (or more correctly, my absence is
missed). The hotel has free internet cable connection in the room and
it works very well. I am glad I brought my laptop. Sara has her
i-phone and uses it for internet and e-mail, but she cannot use it to
make phone calls.
We did not do anything this morning; the kids slept till 9 and we
had breakfast at the hotel's restaurant. If you want to see me eat a
huge breakfast, you should come to one of these restaurants. They had
South Indian dishes as well as western dishes (including an omelet
made to order). Our driver showed up around 1:30 (significantly late
to the point of our getting worried) but when I mentioned the
lateness, he said that the Temple doesn't open till 4 p.m. and implied
that there was no need to start too early). He is very nice and we
like him. He is probably 40. He is going to try to get my phone
unlocked and put a simcard in through one of the many phone stores
here. Right now, we don't have access to a cell phone; only e-mail.
We first went to a shrine near here in honor of St. Thomas, who was
one of Jesus's apostles and came to Madras in 53 A.D. and established
the Christian Church. He was killed in 72 A.D. After the shrine
(which is the oldest Christian church in India), we went and had lunch
at Madras Woodlands restaurant (attached to the same hotel where K2
and I stayed in 2008). Excellent food. Then we went to the
Kapaleeswaran Temple and then came back to the hotel around 6.
Everyone is fine and the twins are coping quite well. They are
watching TV now: cartoon shows with Tamil dialog.
I got Venkat's phone number from Jayanthi and talked to him a few
minutes ago. He is coming here to the hotel in another hour.
Jayanthi also told me that Kalyanam had a fall and hurt his shoulder;
so they are still in Madras and going to Trichy on Thursday (instead
of today, Monday). I talked to Kalyanam. He slipped and fell when he
got out of the shower (at Priya's house). There was no fracture but
his shoulder bone got pushed into a portion of his neck. The doctor
suggested that he needs pain killers and physical therapy. He has no
pain and seems fine. We will see him on Thursday. Incidentally, the
people who bought the Woriur house are not razing it down. The guy
told Kalyanam that they are doing some interior renovations and
leaving the outside as it is. This is very heartening news indeed.
We will be seeing that house on Friday.
Feel free to forward this e-mail and future ones to K1 and K2.
Love
ELH
Thursday, December 15, 2011
Spotted!: Ricky Gervais
Thursday, December 8, 2011
Wednesday, December 7, 2011
Friday, December 2, 2011
Clever Title
Thursday, December 1, 2011
London
Got of Oyster pass for the Underground, The Tube ride was almost an hour from Heathrow. We are staying in the same room on the first floor as we did on the trip when Brenda and Don were with us. Nice room.
Sunday, November 27, 2011
Sunday, November 20, 2011
Political Unrest Impacts Family Education
You all heard that recently the Occupy Wall Street movement was uprooted by Michael Bloomberg. So the protesters took the movement to Michael Bloomberg. They are planning to occupy 79th street between 5th and Madison. So Steiner will be closed for now.
Turned off the water (KLY) and emptyed the fridge (me) etc.
Friday, November 18, 2011
More genealogy, sorry
I’m stopping with the family tree for a while. I’m sick, and the fever dreams about chasing a family line last night were horrible. I’ll figure out a way to blog the tree later. Some things in the meantime:
Bacom and Colvin did not leave behind much by way of info or descendents. The well-documented lines (McKinney & Cantonwine) have been followed to England, Ireland, the highlands, the Netherlands, the Rhineland and Lalaland. The furthest back a US born line went (with a shred of credibility- if that isn’t a problem for you, I direct your attention to Grimsditch & “Boleyn” below, or John Hambledon of UK (1570-?), who seems to be a forbear of the great Hamiltons) was Nicholas Ferris, born in Henrico, VA in 1596.
We have a Hezekiah Moseby (1695-1745), next to whom Ezekial Jenkins (1695-1750)(both of Virginia, by the way- pretty much every path that reaches the 1700s leads there, to PA or NJ) sounds pretty ordinary.
One of the English Riddles is Robert Bollen of Norfolk. If that is a corruption of Boleyn, might some of us be in line with the throne? Must check.
Francis Grimsditch! This remarkable woman, b. 1621 in Cripplegate (!), London, d. 1716 in Port Royal, Bermuda (!) is my 9x great-grandmama. The fact that she gave birth to our ancestor Abigail Bloomfield at the age of 9 only makes me admire her more, and nothing is going to make me take her away from that tree. I think Grimsditch should become the default middle name for the DOJ clan. For females, I mean, males get Hezekiah.
Penelope Van Princis (1622-1732), Robert Henry Riddle’s 5XG-G, gives us a drop of Dutch blood.
Antrim, Derry, Mayo... I’m trying to get the Irish county names of the Galey ancestors together, just in case it can pad out that “Oh, I have ancestors from Ireland” conversational path.
Bettie Mckinney, Russell’s mom, gives us some interesting names as well as some German bllod on that side. Her mother is a Bowser, her 2xG-G is a Ditto, and her maternal G-G is a Dull. No Grimsditch, but a fine collection. The Bowsers are from Rheinland-Pfalz.
tl;dr: I could not find a Tom Riddle, but I did find a picture of him.
Thursday, November 17, 2011
Tuesday, November 15, 2011
Monday, November 14, 2011
Russell Bacom Hewitt
In the 1880 census, John J. Bacom (1827) and Julia A. Bacom (1840) (my great-great grandparents) are living in Abingdon, IL, with 6 children ranging from 10-1 (Harriet, John, James, Nathaniel, Francis (age 3) & Samuel (!)). John J. is a carriage trimmer. John J. and Julia are both from Kentucky. Great Grandpa Francis seems to disappear at this point, but 30 years later...
1910- Bettie Bacom (26 yrs.) is living in Abingdon with her 3 children (Nathan (7), Russell (5), & Dorothy (3)) at her parents' home (William (50) & Rachie (45) McKinney) with her 3 brothers (John (23), Jessie (19), & Walter (14)). William and his 2 older sons work on the railroad.
1920- Betty (36) Has married David J. Hewitt (46), and is living in Rosedale, Kansas, with Russell and Dorothy in a house with David's brother, Richard, and his wife Lucille, who is from Sweden. Richard and David are barbers.
1930- Russell (25) is living with David & Betty Hewitt in L.A.. Russell is a checker at a wholesale grocery. David is a vacuum cleaner salesman.
All of this comes from census records. It would benice to find out what happened to Francis between being aged 3 and dying in a hotel room in Texas. And what kind of Civil War did our Kentucky forebears have?
Sunday, November 13, 2011
Here's what Mom got.
What I learned from Catherine Smith
11/12/11
The Great Aunts, Julia and Adalide Riddle were born in ……….Kansas.
Father was John Henry Riddle, Mother Elizabeth Galey
Siblings of Julia and Adalide were David, George, Sussanah, (Suda)
and Bloomfield.
How the family went to W.T.
They were active Methodists. They were at a meeting, singing. George
was playing the harmonica, badly. One girl gave someone a nickel to
give to George if he would stop playing. George was mad, a fight
broke out with David and George and another kid. A knife was
involved. And a kid was killed! David was convicted, but the whole
town knew that David was a nice kid, the kid who died was a bully.
David went to jail. He was there 3 years, and then his family got a
judge to let him out. The whole family immediately went to Waitsburg,
W.T. on the Oregon Trail!!! The father, J
That is how Cora came to be born in W.T. Her mother was Suda. Suda
contracted typhoid and died. Cora had 2 siblings Myrtle & Elmer
(?). Myrtle was a nurse. She died at a young age of stomach cancer.
We have pictures of her with fantastic hats.
The family moved to Chicago (?).
David Riddle became a doctor.
George became a policeman (we have a picture of him in uniform).
Cora was married 3 times. Arthur Colvin was Cora’s second husband.
They had mother and Alfred. She then married Mr. Bigelow, and had
Aunt Betty.
Cora was a nurse. Arthur was married 5 times.
The ‘Great Aunts’ went to medical school in Chicago. They had one of
the first cars in their town. Picture we have is of a parade in
which the car is decorated with flowers with probably them driving.
Arthur Colvin, mothers father, was married 5 times. We may have
relatives we do not know about.
However, Cora’s children are the only ones in the Riddle line. None
of the other siblings of The Great Aunts had children. And mother is
the only one of her siblings to have children.
There are letters about the cruelty of the Great Aunts.
The reason mother knew Lydia and Ed Kreck was they took her in and
defended her when she was suing to leave the Great Aunts.
Saturday, November 12, 2011
Ready? Mom, check if this seems correct.
Robert died en route, but his wife and 5 children, George, David, Julie, Adeline, Bloomfield, and Suda, (whose real name was...Susannah!), arrived in Washington territory. Suda is the only one to have had any children of her own. George eventually became LAPD, Julia, Adeline, and David all doctors. Suda died very young.
Suda's daughters Cora and Myrtle were both nurses. Cora went to care for the daughters of the widower Arthur in Shenandoah, Iowa. He was a prosperous traveling salesman. He started out as a grocer. Julia and Alfred were born there. Arthur and Cora divorced (he was beating her). Cora then nursed Caleb Bigelow, who had lost an arm in a farm accident. That was Aunt Betty's father.
Cora's brother, Elmer, was in jail for highway robbery, literally, and she seemed to have moved to Oklahoma with Caleb, to be near him. She was also petitioning for his release. Elmer was in the jail that Tom Joad is coming home from in the beginning of Grapes of Wrath. In the meantime, Julia and Adeline (henceforth the GAs) and George ended up in LA. They were also in Oshkosh, WI for a time, I forget why. They had a car. GA Julia was the first woman (maybe person) in Wisconsin to get a speeding ticket. She once hit someone. The GAs went to the Chicago Women's Medical college, both of them. Julia was a brilliant student. They had a magazine about healthy living practices and were very involved in the suffrage movement. However they are largely ignored in documentation about amazing women of the day. Perhaps because they were involved with the eugenics movement rather heavily, and their magazine was funded by a eugenics group! They were distributors of birth control, and probably practitioners of abortion.
Cora would already have known that they were awful people, because they had originally gotten Elmer sent into the juvenile system, because he was growing wild; the evidence for this is that he was consorting with Chinese persons. The GAs began raising Julia and siblings when Cora died. Julia would have been 11. They basically raised Cora, Myrtle, and Elmer, so this was their second little family. They appear to have adopted the children of patients they saw as unfit also.
Well known people involved in women's welfare and education helped Julia with her lawsuit against the GAs. She also had a high school friend (Hollywood High) whose parents protected her at the time. Apparently, Julia went, with the GAs reluctant consent, to live in a dorm, at a Christian college. The GAs demanded that they be informed if she left the dorm for any reason. They were very weird about men. The college refused, (GA Julia's letter to them is pretty creepy,) and they gave Julia permission to go stay with the friend. GA Julia came after her, but the friend's family and the neighbors intervened, and GA Julia was unable to grab Julia.
The man below is James Riddle Hoffa.
Thursday, November 10, 2011
Monday, November 7, 2011
NYC weekend
NYC weekend, a set on Flickr.
it was a lovely week end with Janice and Madhu. We went to the Met to see the new middle Eastern and South Asian galleries, done beautifully. Had a nice lunch at Saravanna's and a very good dinner with Junu at il Riccio.
Saturday, November 5, 2011
Local Pullet Graduates
I thought I would have a quiet moment in the only good box, (I would never lower myself to use any of the other three-you'd never see George or Leslie in them, and, of course, Barry never lays at all, though only this morning I saw one of the Australorps in there, tacky, but you know Australorps.) Anyway, the next thing I knew HWTHF came IN to the house! That beast was dancing about in the doorway!
She came over and dared to touch me and checked to see if there was anything in the box. If I could talk, I would have said, 'There's nothing there yet, and what have you done with Dear Janice? And why have you no grapes?'
But I can't, so I just centered as best I could while HWTHF struggled with a new food bag. Oommm.
Well, then it happened. 'Pa-kaaaak, pa-kaak,' I cried, hoping to summon the others, you understand, but all I got was HWTHF holding a handful of scratch up to me. So I left. Well, okay, I ate a bunch of scratch first, but let me tell you I tried to eat a bunch of HWTHF while I was at it."
The Buff Orpington reports that she hopes to distinguish herself in the egg-laying field, as she is otherwise indistinguishable from the other two Buff Orpingtons.
Friday, November 4, 2011
I got the last chicken in...
Tuesday, November 1, 2011
College: Halloween Edition
Sunday, October 30, 2011
Wednesday, October 26, 2011
Valleys and some of the edging
Sunday, October 23, 2011
Roof update
Friday, October 21, 2011
Tuesday, October 18, 2011
College Update
Friday, October 14, 2011
copied from Kalyani- facebook
In the video, Susi is in the back in green.
Monday, October 10, 2011
JO is home- Thanksgiving in Canada
Wednesday, October 5, 2011
Coming to Broadway
We read it today in the NYT so it must be so.
Sunday, October 2, 2011
Aborted Canoe Trip
Cold, rain, and potential winds caused us to not put our canoes into the water. We drove into Lake Lila, near Little Tupper Lake, which is a beautiful wilderness place in the Ads. Walked, in the rain, ate lunch. It was a long walk, which turned out to be the best part of the trip. We headed to Speculator, and found not one motel or hotel available. Tippi and sibs were at Helen's.
So, Sherrill, Kly and I drove home in the rain last night, dinner at the Savoy in Rome, still good...and warm.
The chickens know that profile is an advantage to their appearance.
Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Missing Corgi Reunited with Family After 11 Years
Michelle and Kipp Blauer bought Duncan, a corgi, for their two boys 11 years ago. And then he vanished. “Then one day he was gone, just disappeared,” Kipp said.
The family searched the neighborhood and local shelters, putting up fliers and hoping for good news. As time passed they were forced to accept the fact that they would likely never see Duncan again.
Thanks to a microchip, they were eventually proven wrong. “I got a call from this lady in Missouri and she says I have your dog, and I’m like ‘what dog?’” Kipp said.
Apparently, Duncan had ended up in a shelter where he was adopted by an elderly woman. “She was an elderly lady and the dog ended up being her companion for about ten years,” Kipp says.
Duncan’s adopter eventually passed away, and afterward her daughter took Duncan with her to Missouri. He got loose and was picked up by a local rescue group. They were surprised to learn that Duncan had a microchip: nobody had ever bothered to check for it.
On Monday night, after more than a decade, Duncan was reunited with his original family. “I never would have thought it, I never would have thought it, not in a million years,” Michelle said. “But you know, life is strange, you never know what is going to happen.”
Week 3
Tuesday, September 27, 2011
Guelph and JO
Saturday, September 24, 2011
Friday, September 23, 2011
Wednesday, September 21, 2011
News from the East
We're staying in some dorms at University College. It's like a maze. The numbers don't go in order.
I'm glad Buster is getting better. I start dog walking on the first.
Today Kazia, Emily L (not UR Emily), and I went to the Bodleian Library and took a tour. It was so cool. The room we waited in used to be the divinity school and was used for filming the Hospital Wing scenes in Harry Potter. The old part of the library was used for the restricted section. The tour guide was leaning on a shelf telling us about the room and what books they have and she put her hand on a book and was like, this is the first English dictionary, no big deal. We were all like, holy crap, that's so cool!
Then I had my tutorial. Boo. It went pretty well. After my tutorial I met up with UR Emily and we went to the History of Science museum. It was the most disappointing museum I've ever been to. There was nothing in there and nothing was older than the 16th century. It was all the same stuff too. They'd have 50 microscopes and 20 cameras. And nothing was well labeled.
For dinner we went to the Eagle and Child pub. It's were Tolkein used to go hang out. It was pretty good. We ate all their ketchup.
I went to the JCR (our common room) after dinner and some girls were watching Bride and Prejudice for the Jane Austen class so I watched with them. That movie is terrible but hysterical.
Tomorrow I'm going to the Natural History and Pitt-Rivers museums and the Oxford Castle.
Love, Hannah
Sunday, September 18, 2011
news from the south
Saturday, September 17, 2011
Thursday, September 15, 2011
Random Info.
Tuesday, September 13, 2011
Trouble @/c flickr
Sunday, September 11, 2011
Classes
Friday, September 9, 2011
HAPPY BIRTHDAY ISAAC!!
Thursday, September 8, 2011
First Day of School for Nick & Laura
First day of school for the twins. It was a bit chaotic. I had forgotten to fill out their forms, the dog need walking and Nicky forgot his backpack. We did get to school on time and managed to take a picture. Laura was really exited and nervous, Nicky was mostly nervous until he saw his teacher, he has the same ones as last year. Most of the boys are the same from last year and also some of the girls. Laura also had kids she knew in her class.
have you seen this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwcYbo7pjto